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Big East Bowls

The Big East Conference announced deals with the Papajohns.com Bowl and Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl yesterday. The deals extend the Big East’s involvment with those bowls through 2013. Additionally, they announced a deal with the AutoZone Liberty Bowl that allows the conference to send a team to that bowl instead of the Papajohns.com Bowl at least once during the next 4 years.

If the Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl sounds new to you, that’s because it used to be the St. Petersburg Bowl.

The Big East Bowl lineup will now look like this:

BCS Bowl – Big East Champion
Champs Sports Bowl – Big East vs. ACC
Meineke Car Care Bowl – Big East vs. ACC
New Era Pinstripe Bowl – Big East vs. Big 12
Papajohns.com Bowl/AutoZone Liberty Bowl – Big East vs. SEC or C-USA
Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl – Big East vs. C-USA

The 2010 Big East Bowl Season will be as follows:

Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl – 12/21/10, 8:00 PM, ESPN
Champs Sports Bowl – 12/29/10, 8:00 PM, ESPN
New Era Pinstripe Bowl – 12/30/10, 3:00 PM, ESPN
Meineke Care Car Bowl – 12/31/10, Noon, ESPN
AutoZone Liberty Bowl – 12/31/10, 3:30 PM, ESPN
Papajohns.com Bowl – 1/8/11, Noon, ESPN

All in all, it’s a pretty impressive bowl lineup. The Big East set out to structure its bowl season so that it included top opponents and attractive locations. From the looks of this lineup, I’d have to say that they did a pretty good job.

Big East Hires Paul Tagliabue

Well the Big East has taken its first step towards protecting itself from possible conference expansions in the coming years. Yesterday, the conference announced that the former NFL commissioner, Paul Tagliabue, will give advice on strategic planning to the Big East.

This is clearly a step taken in light of the Big Ten’s plans to examine the possibility of expanding. Amidst all of the rumors, one thing is clear: The Big Ten is seriously considering expansion. Whether or not Pitt, or any other Big East team, is on the list of possible expansion candidates, it’s clear that the Big East will need to do something. Hopefully Tagliabue brings some fresh ideas to the table.

2010 Big East Tournament

Editor’s Note: Sorry about the wrong bracket there earlier. Uploaded the wrong photo and listed the wrong times. This is the correct bracket. Thanks to “RD” for the heads up.

It’s time Panther fans. The Big East Men’s Basketball Championship Tournament has finally come. We’ve been slacking a little in our coverage over the past few weeks, but we’ve got our act together and we’re ready to cover the tournament from start to finish.

The Panthers, with a little bit of flash, have put together a nice finish to the regular season this year. Pitt enters the tournament at 13-5 in the conference (24-7 overall), tied for second with WVU and Villanova. Syracuse takes the uncontested top spot at 15-3 in the Big East (28-3 overall). With the Panthers’ record, they’ve earned a double bye in the tournament and automatically enter at the quarterfinal round. Pitt will face off first against either Notre Dame, Providence, or Seton Hall. Notre Dame earned a first-round bye and will play the winner of the Providence vs. Seton Hall matchup.

Tournament play starts on Tuesday with first round games at 12 PM, 2 PM, 7 PM, and 9 PM. Pitt will play on Thursday at 7 PM. The opening round will be televised on ESPN2 and ESPNU. All other rounds will be televised on ESPN.

Here’s how the bracket looks:

We’ll have a short analysis and predictions later today. A preview of the Pitt game will be posted Thursday morning (the day of Pitt’s first game).

We’ve also put up a new poll for you to voice your opinion on how far Pitt will go in the NCAA tournament. Be sure to vote!

Get pumped Panther fans!

The Big East Bowl Recap

Well the 2009-2010 bowl season is just about over. Only the BCS National Championship between Texas and Alabama remains. The Big East finished its bowl season with a postseason record of 4-2. We’re going to recap the Big East’s bowl season starting with the scoreboard, followed by our commentary on the results.

Meineke Car Care Bowl
Pitt
UNC
19  (10-3, 5-2 Big East)
17  (8-5, 4-4 ACC)
AllState Sugar Bowl
Cincinnati
Florida
24  (12-1, 7-0 Big East)
51  (13-1, 8-0 SEC)

 

Konica Minolta Gator Bowl
WVU
Florida State
21  (9-4, 5-2 Big East)
33  (7-6, 4-4 ACC)
PapaJohns.com Bowl
South Carolina
UConn
7   (7-6, 3-5 SEC)
20  (8-5, 3-4 Big East)

 

International Bowl
USF
N. Illinois
27  (8-5, 3-4 Big East)
3   (7-6, 5-3 MAC)
St. Petersburg Bowl by Beef ‘O’ Brady’s
UCF
Rutgers
24  (8-5, 6-2 C-USA)
45  (9-4, 3-4 Big East)

Dan:
A 4-2 bowl season record might appear pretty good at first glance. But some people would have you think that it’s actually a poor record for the Big East this year. I’ve seen a few articles that pointed out that Cincy was blown out by Florida and WVU lost to a 6-6 FSU team, turning the Big East’s two losses into pretty awful losses.

I don’t buy it though. Sure, Cincy did get blown out by Florida. But you have to attribute some of that poor play to Brian Kelly leaving the Bearcats without their head coach for the bowl game. He did make a lot of the offensive calls, afterall. At any rate, Cincy lost to a great Florida team. They were a team that was ranked first in the nation for most of the season. Florida was the better team. But the play of a single team certainly doesn’t reflect the overall strength or performance of the entire conference.

As for WVU, I feel like they deserve a little more criticism than Cincy. WVU played a pretty bad FSU team. Granted, the fact that it was Bobby Bowden’s final game probably fueled FSU, and it was a virtual road game for WVU. They still shouldn’t have lost that game. Where was Devine late in that game? Come on WVU. Still, the circumstances just seemed to favor FSU.

On the other hand, there were four other games that turned out pretty well for the Big East. Pitt’s win over UNC is my pick for top Big East bowl win. That’s not a homer pick. UNC may have had a mediocre season by the record, but they had a top ranked defense and a home crowd in Charlotte. Pitt went in and let Dion Lewis rack up another 100+ yard game on that 6th ranked defense. The Panthers outplayed UNC despite making a few mistakes and came away with a win. UConn’s win is my pick for the second best win. As much as the SEC will want to point to the Sugar Bowl outcome, Big East fans can point to this one. UConn, after overcoming tragedy this season, pulled out a decisive victory over South Carolina, an SEC opponent.

And what about the other two wins? Well USF blew out Northern Illinois, a MAC opponent. Rutgers rolled right over UCF from C-USA. Isn’t that enough to silence the Big East haters that claim we’re a mid-major conference? The Big East simply plays at a higher level than those conferences and it showed in these two wins.

So about that 4-2 record? Well let’s put aside the fact that it’s better than the SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big Ten, and Pac-10 this year (and yes, that will stand despite the outcome of the BCS National Championship). We can even forget for a minute that the Big East sends a larger percentage of teams to bowls consistently. What’s most impressive to me is that since 2006, the Big East now has gone 17-6 in bowl games. Until people start respecting this conference, the best thing the teams of the Big East can do is keep posting records like this.

Mike:
The Big East went 4-2 this bowl season, not too shabby if you think about it. I predicted 5-1. Looking back though, how impressive is that 4-2 record? Rutgers and USF were expected to win their games against weak opponents, Cincinnati and West Virginia laid eggs in their games, Pitt beat a decent North Carolina team in what was a practical road game for them, and Connecticut had the most impressive win by beating South Carolina. I give the nod to UConn because of the tragedy they went through this year and the fact that South Carolina is a team from a dominate SEC. They barely edged Pitt in my opinion. As the record shows, the ACC had another terrible bowl year, so how great is that win for Pitt?

Looking back at my predictions, I wasn’t too far off on some. I really thought the Rutgers game would be closer and more of a defensive game then what it was. I figured UConn and USF would run away with their games. I honestly thought Pitt would just run up and down and all around on North Carolina and that game ended up being much closer than expected. West Virginia, I have no idea what happened there, being up 14-3 and then just not using Noel Devine. That would be like Pitt not using Dion Lewis or Jonathan Baldwin. Uh, what? Looking back, I wasn’t even that far off with the Cincinnati game, I figured they would lose and by double digits, but I didn’t think it would be that ugly.

All in all, it was a good year for Big East football. They had 0 teams ranked in the Top 25 to begin the year, but should end up with 2, maybe 3, teams ranked: Pitt, Cincy, maybe WVU. It was supposed to be a down year for talent and the teams in general, yet we saw the birth of new stars. Next year should be another fun year for Big East football. You have to figure Pitt and UConn are the two front runners. WVU and Cincy are next depending on players going to the pros and coaching transition for Cincy. Rutgers could easily be around the top next year, while USF is still a question mark, and Louisville and Syracuse are still rebuilding. It’s been a year full of memories, some good, some bad. But in the end, it was another successful Big East football season.

We’re not finished with our coverage of the 2009-2010 football season just yet. Look for a BCS National Championship preview tomorrow morning. Plus, we’re going to recap the Panthers successful 10-3 season in detail as soon as the final BCS rankings are released.

Also, don’t forget that Pitt basketball is in full swing now as they’ve entered into the Big East portion of the schedule. Look for an increase in our coverage of men’s basketball now that football season is over and basketball season is heating up.

 

The Big Ten Expansion and Pitt – Initial Thoughts

So by now you’ve probably heard the buzz about the Big Ten Conference. The Big Ten has decided to evaluate the possibility of expanding from 11 teams to 12. While no one from the conference has released any official information on which teams will be evaluated, there is plenty of speculation.

The Big Ten last expanded in 1990 with the addition of Penn State. That pushed the Big Ten to the current (confusing) count of 11 teams. That addition is regarded as highly successful by most people associated with the conference. The conference has since evaluated the possibility of expansion a few times, even offering a deal to Notre Dame in 1999. Notre Dame, obviously, refused at the time. The last evaluation came in 2003, but no action was taken. Now that the Big Ten has finished getting the Big Ten Network up and running, they’ve decided that the timing is right to evaluate expansion once again.

The Big Ten is looking for quite a few things in a new member. First and most apparent is athletic prominence. They’re going to look for a school that has fairly decent athletic programs, or at least a tradition of decent athletics. Second, the Big Ten is an academic conference as well and will look for a school that can compare academically. Unlike the Big East, the Big Ten schools are affiliated academically and are all members of the Association of American Universities (AAU) and the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC). Third, the conference will look at the ability of the new team to expand on the Big Ten’s TV market now that the Big Ten Network has been implemented successfully. And lastly, the conference will almost certainly consider the geographical location of the new school so as to ease scheduling and travel.

So what teams are coming up in public discussions on the possible expansion? Well obviously Pitt has come up. Why else would we be posting an article on The Pitt Blog about the Big Ten? Other schools that have been mentioned in various reports and discussions are Notre Dame, Missouri, Syracuse, Rutgers, Cincinnati, Iowa State, Texas, Nebraska, Louisville, UConn, and WVU. Now not all of these would actually be serious candidates. Texas and Nebraska would almost certainly never leave the Big 12. Also, Texas is well outside of the geographically desirable area. WVU, Cincinnati, and Louisville do not really have the academic status to fit in with the Big Ten. None of those three is in the AAU nor regarded as an academically prominent school. WVU also doesn’t bring a large TV market with it. UConn falls too far east to fit geographically, even though it would bring in a new TV market. Iowa State just doesn’t seem to have the interest of the Big Ten. While it is a decent academic institution, Iowa State lacks a strong athletic tradition.

That leaves Notre Dame, Missouri, Pitt, Syracuse, and Rutgers as potential candidates. Let’s look at these schools and discuss each from the Big Ten’s point of view.

Notre Dame
Notre Dame is probably the #1 choice for the Big Ten. They’ve been courted before and turned down the offer from the Big Ten. Quite honestly, why wouldn’t they turn the Big Ten down? Notre Dame has a national fanbase and has a prestigious athletic (football) reputation on its own. With NBC backing them with a lucrative TV deal through 2015, there’s not a whole lot of financial incentive to associate themselves with the Big Ten. Notre Dame already associates with the Big East in most sports, including basketball. Why move to the Big Ten when you already have a financially rewarding TV deal for football and your basketball teams already play in the best basketball conference in the nation? The Big Ten might pursue ND once again, but there’s really no chance of Notre Dame accepting the offer.

Missouri
Missouri is supposedly one of the serious candidates for review. Why not? They’ve been fairly competitive in football and men’s basketball in the past decade (6 bowl appearances, 6 NCAA Tournament appearances). They’re an “ok” academic institution that’s been a member of the AAU since 1908. But would they want to move to the Big Ten? They’d be moving away from their most heated and historic rivalry: Kansas. They’d also leave behind their rivalry with Nebraska. Missouri also sits a little further out of the geographic area that would be considered ideal for the Big Ten. However, they’re definitely an attractive option and haven’t dismissed the idea. Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton stated, “Should there be an official inquiry or invitation, we would evaluate it based upon what would be in the best interest of MU athletically and academically.”

Pitt
Pitt is definitely a potential candidate. Joe Paterno has been quoted as recently as May of 2009 stating interest in potentially adding Pitt to the Big Ten. Pitt certainly fulfills the academic requirements. They’re a member of the AAU and rank about the middle of the Big Ten pack in the academic rankings. They’re a huge research institution, which is a major selling point. Athletically speaking, Pitt has a good tradition with the football team. They have nine National Championships and appear to be on the rise under Wannstedt. The basketball teams are very attractive with their recent success. The prospect of playing away games at Heinz Field, the Petersen Events Center, and the new Petersen Sports Complex certainly has to be appealing. Adding Pitt would instantly reignite the Pitt-PSU rivalry and almost certainly spark a natural rivarly between Pitt and Ohio State. Pitt certainly fits geographically. So what hurts Pitt’s chances from the Big Ten point of view? Well they’re not exactly a great draw for marketing. PSU’s reach already ensures that the Big Ten Network is in Pittsburgh. Adding Pitt doesn’t put the BTN in any new TV markets. It doesn’t bring a huge fan following either. Let’s face it, the Pitt fanbase doesn’t live up to the expectations of some Big Ten schools. Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State all fill football stadiums much larger than Heinz Field on a regular basis while Pitt home game attendance only averaged slightly above 53,000 this year. Still, Pitt appears to be a highly attractive choice to the Big Ten.

Syracuse
Syracuse is another attractive option for the Big Ten. They have a great basketball program history. They’ve made the men’s NCAA tournament in 16 of the last 20 seasons, winning the National Championship once. The football program is rebuilding. They’re a decent academic institution that’s already a member of the AAU. So why not? Well Syracuse would definitely bring the upstate NY TV market to the Big Ten. But Syracuse doesn’t really have any natural rivals in the Big Ten aside from Penn State. Furthermore, they are somewhat outside of the ideal geographic area. The struggling football program doesn’t exactly work well in a “here-and-now” argument. And honestly, it doesn’t appear that Syracuse would want to move to the Big Ten. Syracuse tried to leave the Big East just a few years ago when the ACC raided the Big East. That was fairly understandable as the ACC is a decent basketball conference. Syracuse would really have to consider leaving behind UConn, Pitt, WVU, Cinci, and so on for the competition in the Big Ten. Losing the appeal of the Big East tournament in Madison Square Garden would certainly hurt Syracuse with recruiting.

Rutgers
Rutgers seems to be more of a Penn State pick. I’ve heard and read reports of PSU fans and sports writers advocating Rutgers as an expansion team. Rutgers certainly would add something to the TV market with their proximity to New York City. But what else would they bring to the table? The football program has only recently made a name for itself. The basketball program is a joke. The last men’s team appearance in the NCAA Tournament was in 1991 where they lost in the first round. In fact, the only year they ever made it past the second round was 1976 (they went on to lose in the Final Four). They’re a decent school academically. But even as a member of the AAU, Rutgers ranks lower than any Big Ten school in academics. Not to mention, the school would be pretty far east for the Big Ten.

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So which team will it be? Well it’s all speculation at this point. It certainly seems like the top realistic candidates are Missouri, Pitt, and Syracuse. We’ll all have to wait though. The Big Ten statement indicated that the initial evaluation process would take anywhere from 12 to 18 months to complete. Any fact-based information could be quite a ways off yet.

The real question to ponder in the meantime is this: Should (and would) Pitt apply for membership if encouraged by the Big Ten? That’s a tough question for any Panthers fan to answer. The reality is yes, as much as it may pain you to say it. Collegiate athletics is a business. Pitt stands to make a lot of money by joining the Big Ten. The revenue sharing from the BTN alone is a huge step for Pitt. Academically speaking, Pitt would benefit greatly from aligning itself with such academically strong institutions. The Big East offers nothing in academics.

The effect on athletics is probably the last consideration for Pitt. Even then, it actually might fare well for Pitt. The football program struggles to gain much respect in the Big East. Membership in the Big Ten would certainly help the reputation of the team. A Big Ten conference schedule would most certainly boost season ticket sales for football. Imagine a home schedule that included Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa, and/or (gasp) PENN STATE. The rivalry would thrive. Pitt could still pursue a non-conference rivalry with WVU and Cincinnati, even though I don’t think the River City Rivalry is really catching on anyway. As far as basketball is concerned, Pitt would certainly be leaving behind the best basketball conference in the nation. But with teams like Michigan State and Indiana, Pitt would still have good competition in the conference. They would, however, lose the recruiting appeal of the Big East Tournament in MSG.

And as was mentioned earlier, Pitt is certainly a desirable candidate. The buzz throughout the sporting world seems to indicate that Pitt would likely be a strong candidate as well: see here, here, here, and here.

When it boils down to it, I don’t think Pitt could afford to pass up the opportunity. I’m sure the University would jump at the chance if it were presented to them. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens in the next 12-18 months.

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If the opportunity arises, should Pitt join the Big Ten?

  • Yes (68%, 19 Votes)
  • No (32%, 9 Votes)

Total Voters: 28

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Pitt and the Rankings

So my guess is that there are a lot of upset Pitt fans this Monday morning. The BCS Rankings came out yesterday and, even with all of the upsets this weekend, Pitt only moved up one spot to 12th. The Panthers did, however, move up a bit more in the AP Poll and ESPN/USA Today Poll. They are 8th and 9th, respectively, in those polls.

Before you Pitt Blog fans get too upset, remember that the BCS Rankings mean nothing to Pitt at this point. There are three things for upset fans to consider right now. First off, there’s no way that Pitt is getting into a National Championship game this year with the NC State loss on the record. Second, if Pitt wins the Big East, they’ll get the automatic BCS Bowl bid anyway. And finally, if the Panthers finish second or third in the Big East, there’s virtually no chance that they’ll get an at-large bid. Right now, all that should concern Panther fans is the possibility of winning the Big East.

That brings us to an interesting scenario. Pitt has a good chance at the Big East title this year. The Panthers have three games left: Notre Dame, WVU, and Cincinnati. The Notre Dame game could have implications when it comes to the Gator Bowl. Notre Dame’s contract with the Gator Bowl requires the Irish to finish within 2 wins of the second place Big East team to get invited. If Pitt finishes in second place in the Big East and wants to avoid going to the Meineke Car Care Bowl, they need to beat both Notre Dame and WVU, as well as have Notre Dame drop at least one more game (to either UConn or Stanford). That would put Pitt at 10-2 and Notre Dame at 7-5. Pitt would then get an invite to the Gator Bowl.

But that doesn’t mean that Pitt must win against Notre Dame. In fact, Pitt could lose both the Notre Dame game and the WVU game and still win the Big East, thereby getting an automatic bid to a BCS Bowl Game. As long as Cincinnati beats WVU, the Cincinnati vs. Pitt game on December 5th will decide the Big East Champion.

It gets a bit more confusing when you try to map out all of the possible scenarios, but the bottom line is clear: Pitt needs to beat Cincinnati. That’s what Panther fans should be most concerned with right now. A win against Notre Dame will help Pitt, but only if Pitt loses to Cincy and Notre Dame drops another game after Pitt. Even then, it only helps the Panthers get into the Gator Bowl in an unlikely scenario. Pitt’s best shot at an exciting bowl game lies in winning the Big East.